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Andie James Samples Beguiled
Katherine Grant: Welcome to the Historical Romance Sampler. I am your host, Katherine Grant, and this week I'm joined by the fabulous author and podcaster, Andie James. You've heard you heard her first in season one, episode 12, and now she's back to talk about a new novel and her new podcast. Andie, thanks so much for coming.
Andie James: Thank you for having me, Katherine. I'm so excited to be back.
Katherine Grant: I'm excited to revisit because episode 12 of season one, I remember feeling like, I was like, oh, I'm like, I've done a lot of episodes now, but, I look back and I'm like, wow, that was, that was, that was early.
Andie James: It was very, it was a lot. I
Katherine Grant: didn't
Andie James: know.
Oh, that's, oh gosh. I'm still learning, so you're way ahead of me.
Katherine Grant: Well, so for those of you who haven't met Andie before. Here's a little bio about her. Andie has been a voracious reader her entire life, and after a 15 year career in student and academic development in higher education, she took a leap of faith and decided to try her hand at writing.
Andie decided to start with a focus on historic romance as she loves the fantasy inherent to the genre and the way a historical lens can provide a different perspective to understand contemporary issues. Andie lives happily in Fairview, Oregon. She loves living in the Pacific Northwest and feels invigorated by the beauty of the Puget Sound.
There is nothing she enjoys more than curling up with a good book and some great coffee on a rainy day. Andie is also the host of First Encounter, a new podcast exploring both the foundations and the future of historical romance.
Andie James: Yes.
Katherine Grant: Yay.
Andie James: Yay.
Katherine Grant: So Andie, last time you were here, you read mm-hmm. From Bequeathed.
Yes. And now I noticed you're reading from a book now called Beguiled, and I noticed in the book description it's the, it's featuring as a side or as supporting characters, the couple from Bequeathed.
Andie James: This is true, yes. So this is from my series called The Beaumonts, so it's following members of the Beaumont family.
So, um, in the first book in the series, bequeathed, that featured, uh, West is the marquess, of Hampton, head of the Beaumont family. So his love story with his wife Priscilla, and because it's a family of course they're connected, so they still are definitely making
actually kind of a heavy appearance in this book, um, because most of the book takes place on their estate, so
Katherine Grant: that's awesome.
Andie James: Yeah.
Katherine Grant: So what should we know about Beguiled before you get into the reading?
Andie James: So, yeah, Beguiled is book two in the series.
And our main characters in this are Alice and Ethan, and they're each cousins of the couple in the former book. So Ethan is the Beaumont in this, this book. He is the cousin to West, and Alice is Priscilla's cousin. Ethan has just started working as the estate manager, for West, and Alice is, she debuted the season before she was unable to find a match.
She's feeling a lot of pressure from her father to make a match quickly. So she's there to kind of get Priscilla's guidance a bit, and the chapter I'm gonna read today for you is chapter six. It's all from Ethan's perspective, but I guess what you need to know is that Priscilla has him working on overhauling the gardens at their estate.
They're doing a major renovation and she thinks the best way to help Alice is to give her a project. So that's kind of, I guess the one other nugget I will put out there too, , is that upon first meeting, Alison Ethan didn't know who the other was and it was not a good first encounter.
Katherine Grant: We love it.
Andie James: Yes.
Alright, so this is chapter six of Beguiled.
"You want me to do what?" Ethan can hardly believe that Priscilla was asking of him. "No." It was entirely too much. "No," he repeated, turning towards West, imploring him for support. "Tell her, West. You just told me it's time to hire a steward because I need to get out of the muck and into the office."
"Priscilla thinks this is important.
Just work with Alice for a few days. What harm can it do?" So much for West being on his side. The man was completely in love with his wife and willing to defer to her on the matter, which meant he'd have to come up with a way out of this on his own.
"I know I'm asking a lot of you," Priscilla said sweetly, turning her charm up to its full volume, "but it really would mean so much to me."
"I understand the role you want me to play in this, but why on earth are you putting your inexperienced cousin in charge of a project that clearly means so much to you?" Ethan was beyond puzzled by Priscilla's motivations. He knew she was invested in restoring the gardens, which is why he had spent time on them these past few weeks and was happy to do so
temporarily, but now she intended to place Miss Pembroke in charge of the design while Priscilla was asking him to oversee the project. Of course, he was almost certain her cousin knew nothing about such an endeavor.
"Alice needs a project. I think having this responsibility and being able to use her full creativity in the garden will do wonders for her, but you are correct.
She will need supervision as an undertaking like this will be new to her. Please do this for both of us, Ethan."
Letting out a prolonged exhalation, he shook his head in defeat. "Fine, but she needs to do exactly what I say. I don't have time to add chasing her around to my responsibilities. I'll follow her plan if she will follow my orders."
There was nothing Ethan loathed more than a change to his plans. He liked knowing how the day or even the week was going to unfold. This was a decidedly large wrench in how he'd envisioned the next fortnight playing out. He would have to curb himself from letting his frustration out on Miss
Pembroke, though she might prove to be deserving of his ire, and he hoped that her arresting appearance wouldn't prove distracting to the men. Ethan for his part knew he was strong enough to resist such diversion, even if her pretty face had intruded into his thoughts most multiple times since her arrival, but he wasn't sure everyone working for him possessed the same fortitude.
"Well, I guess it's a good thing I just wrote to Joe Hanson and offered him the steward position. I'll need extra hands if I'm adding supervision to my schedule."
"Thank you." Priscilla flung her arms around him in gratitude, and Ethan was glad his cousin felt secure enough in his wife's affections to no longer show
the possessive streak he once exhibited when her intention was shared with another man. "It means more to me than you know, and I'm sure Alice will follow your direction without question," priscilla said, releasing Ethan and beaming at her husband, whose lips twitched in amusement. But her face slowly changed, looking almost apprehensive
when she added, "I was thinking about asking Natalie to come for a visit as well." Interpreting his incredulity as his mouth fell slightly open, she hastened to add, "Alice needs friends her own age around here, and you know, as well as I, that your sister would be a wonderful example of how to be principled amidst the objectionable morals of polite society.
You must admit it's a brilliant idea."
"For Miss Pembroke, yes, but what do you expect poor Natalie to do? Should she cater to your cousin's whims as well?"
"Of course not." Priscilla smacked his upper arm. "She may sit around and read all day if she so desires, but you know she cares nothing about the to or having a season.
And I'd like Alice to see that perspective." Priscilla's eyes grew large and her tone beseeching, "though I know you consider her to be imperious, could this not serve as an education for her to reevaluate and see there are other things to value?"
"Well." Ethan couldn't argue with that. He didn't like being handled by the lady, but she had outmaneuvered him pinching the bridge of his nose to stave off the impending pain of a meri.
He sighed in defeat. "Very well, but if Natalie doesn't wish to come, you will not force the issue and when and if she wants to leave, you will let her. I will not have my sister coerced."
"Of course not. It'll be entirely up to Natalie." Both Hamptons were looking at him eagerly waiting for his blessing of the plan.
"Do what you will. I'm at your mercy. When should I expect to begin working with Miss Pembroke?"
"I believe she's looking at plans with Mathias now." Priscilla offered. Yes. Ethan could most definitely feel a headache forming.
"No, I think we need to make this plot larger," said a distinctly feminine voice, conveyed as it floated on the breeze towards Ethan. Rounding the corner of the hedge,
he found a clearly befuddled Mathias looking at Miss Pembroke as she considered the garden plans, gesturing towards the right side of the space the men had been clearing. "There should be room for paths wind around the perimeter," she added.
This was entirely too much. "Why are you changing my plans?" Ethan growled, striding across the remaining distance to join the pair.
"Oh, Mr. Beaumont." Mathias exhaled, frame softening in relief palpable. The gardener raised his eyebrows in question, white eyes begging for assistance. "Uh, Miss Pembroke was sharing some of her ideas for the garden, but I wasn't quite sure where to begin." It was a diplomatic way for the head gardener to imply he had no idea if he should be heeding the young woman's instructions.
"Yes, I'll figure out the new plan and get back to you as soon as possible," ethan said, hoping he sounded apologetic. "I appreciate all the hard work you and your men have put into this. Miss Pembroke, if I might have a word." Mathias gave a small bow of his head before turning away, most likely relieved Ethan would
be the one to deal with the demanding interloper. Meanwhile, Miss Pembroke was giving him a frosty glare as she rolled up the plans and turned more fully towards him. She opened her mouth to share what undoubtedly would be a tart remark, but Ethan preempted her. "I understand that your cousin has placed you in charge of plans for the gardens, but that doesn't mean you can order my men about or make changes on a whim.
All plans must run through me first, so the work may be divided in a sensible manner. Are we clear?" Wisely, she gave a quick nod and pinched her lips together, yet not even the space of 10 seconds had passed before she opened her mouth once again.
"I feel compelled to say though, that you must treat me with respect in front of the men.
How else will they follow my lead?"
"They won't," Ethan ground out. "They'll follow my lead, which is why you will run everything by me."
"That's hardly efficient, especially since Priscilla has placed me in charge. I'm only thinking of your time."
"She's placed you in charge of the plan, not my men," ethan said ignoring the mention of his time as it was a blatant attempt to butter him up.
"And do you even have a plan? You can't simply look at the existing drawings and decide it doesn't suit. I won't have my men wasting time clearing more land when you don't even yet know what you intend to do with the space." He gestured to the right where she had indicated wishing for a pathway. It wasn't a bad suggestion, but he was hardly gonna let the harridan know that.
"I do have ideas of my own,
Mr. Beaumont," she said, cheeks colored from his admonishment.
"I'm sure you do, but ideas don't exist until they're written down. Come back to me with a fully revised plan and then we can discuss how to proceed. In the meantime, I suggest you leave the men to their already prescribed work."
"Well, I best get to work on that plan,
then," she said pertly before turning back towards the house. Watching her retreat, Ethan breathed a sigh of relief, but he couldn't help thinking how becoming she had looked with her cheeks flushed from heightened emotions.
Ethan found himself to be much calmer that evening as he sat at his desk adding up numbers for the January reports that he owed West.
He hadn't meant to lose his temper with Miss Pembroke earlier, but he was concerned that her new position involved with the garden was going to be a constant challenge to his sense of control. He craved things to be in order, and she posed a threat that could upend everything he had only recently put into place on the estate.
Leaning back in his chair, Ethan rested his head on the back edge and rubbed his eyes. He had been working by candlelight for hours and it was well past time to call it a night and rest for tomorrow. Standing and stretching, he picked up a plate with remnants of the dinner that the butler had kindly delivered earlier.
He'd opted out of dinner for solitude to both finish his work and avoid Miss Pembroke. Now he'd returned the kindness by delivering the dishes and cutlery back to the kitchen. No need to make the maids deal with his mess in the morning. After leaving the dishes with the cook's assistant, Ethan made his way upstairs, intending to head to bed, and paused upon seeing a light on in the library.
He peeked inside, expecting to find West, but what he saw instead astounded him entirely. Miss Pembroke was sitting at a table in the corner surrounded by open texts. The light from the lamp beside her cast a glow on her cheek and exaggerated the graceful curve of her neck by the shadow her chin left in the angle of the beam, threads of gold and copper glinted within her upswept red hair, making it look like her entire head dripped with the finest jewelry.
But what captivated Ethan the most was her posture of sheer concentration. Head bent over one of the books, she was Studiously making notes on the paper before her. Silently drawing closer, he saw there were sketches scattered about with demarcations often used to denote different types of plants. He realized she was devising the plans that he had accused her of not having, and she seemed to have been at the task for quite some time.
Not wishing to startle her, he deepened his tread to make his footsteps audible behind her. Miss Pembroke lifted her head, turning to see who was disturbing her.
"I don't mean to interrupt. I just wondered who was in library so late."
"What time is it?" She asked, stifling a yawn within her inquiry.
"Just past midnight, I was heading to bed myself, and you probably should as well."
Standing,
she braced her hands behind her back and arched forward, throwing her head and back in a stretch. Arms down, she rolled her head from side to side to loosen the muscles of her neck. He was amazed how indifferent she seemed to be in regard to propriety in this moment, unconscious of her movements when she had been so formal in their previous interactions.
She must feel a certain level of comfort in her cousin's home, and he was oddly glad that she did not feel the need to remain constantly in check around him either. "I will be done soon, but it seems I need to finish a plan in order to be taken seriously," she said pointedly.
"Are all these books about garden?"
He asked, ignoring the jab and gesturing at the pile on the desk.
"Yes. Thankfully the library contained quite a few. I've been renewing my familiarity with some of the history regarding trends in landscape architecture and studying popular forms and styles from the last century." Running her hand over the spine of a book near her,
she looked back down at her own plan. "I was inspired by some of the gardens at Althorpe house the other day when we attended Lady Spencer's soiree. Her gardens were designed by none other than capability Brown." She gestured at another book, presumably about the designs of Brown, the famed landscape architect of the last century.
Ethan walked over to the book and observed the clean lines and a drawing depicting one of the layouts. "Is this the kind of garden you want to create?" Ethan asked, flipping through the plans in the book.
"No, I don't think so."
He looked at Alice in surprise. "You don't admire his work?"
"Oh, of course I do. How could one not? It's beautiful."
"But?"
"But I'd imagined something a bit less traditional, less proper.
It's so contained." She pursed her lips at the last word, her body now rigid as she spoke. "With a restraint in the design." Yet a second later, Ethan watched his Alice transform before his eyes. Her shoulder sloped away from her ears and her eyes became in focus as she stared at a spot on the bookshelf opposite her.
"I want a design that's allowed movement. That is freer. More, oh, what's the word?"
"Wild?" He supplied.
"No, not wild." Shaking her head, alice turned her eyes to focus and met ethan's. "Just less controlled by strict boundaries." Closing the book, she picked it up and exited the library with a quiet determination, leaving Ethan with the feeling that Miss
Pembroke may not have been discussing her ideas for the garden at all.
Katherine Grant: Lovely. We love a library scene.
Andie James: Yes. Gotta have a library scene.
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Katherine Grant: All right, I am back with Andie James, who just read from Beguiled book two in the in the Beaumont series.
And it is out now because we are recording this the week before it launches. And this episode will be coming out, I think in March. So go get it. Go read it. So I remember you posted this on Instagram, you shared the description and I was like mm-hmm. You had me at Ethical Land Management. Yes. Because that's in the blurb.
Andie James: Mm-hmm.
Katherine Grant: And we see that coming up a little bit in this scene that you just read. Mm-hmm. Where they are gonna be at war with what is this garden design.
Andie James: Yeah.
Katherine Grant: So I love the research of how people used land back then.
Andie James: Yes. Mm-hmm.
Katherine Grant: I also know that's tricky to get into fiction.
Andie James: Yeah,
Katherine Grant: in an interesting way.
Andie James: I'm not gonna say I necessarily worked what that looks like into this book, but it's very much part of Ethan's motivation and that is very much in the book.
So for him, you saw it a little bit in that excerpt that I just read, but he is kind of grumpy about actually needing to work on the garden. He's like, my time could be so much better spent on these other projects that are actually important to the people who depend upon this estate and this land.
And, you know, it's revealed that the land hasn't been managed well previously, and he's really trying to get it there. And so I referenced the year without a summer, which was after a big eruption in 1816 and it caused massive disruption to weather patterns that summer.
And so all of Europe and England in particular was, well the northern hemisphere, but really thrust into an unusually cold summer and it just decimated crops. And so I referenced kind of how they were still trying to come back from that and revive things.
He took the position with his cousin because he wants to try to give an example of a better and more fair and ethical way to manage this estate and try to make it an example for others.
Katherine Grant: Is there a metaphor there that you find interesting of the land use being kind of thinking about function and the garden, thinking about,
Andie James: mm-hmm.
Katherine Grant: Aesthetics or recreation or something like that?
Andie James: I think so. I mean, I don't think it was necessarily my intention when writing the book, but I think it definitely comes out that. Maybe it's me trying to justify myself right now, like the value of the work I'm doing when the world is burning down around us, you know, that there is, there's something to be said for being able to still find beauty and joy in what is around you.
And so, I definitely comment a little bit about how reviving this garden, like Priscilla and Alice see it as a way to bring kind of morale to all those who are linked to and connected to the estate to have something to be proud of, to have a place where there's beauty and can kind of give them some, some mental reprieve.
And I'm not gonna lie, I have been struggling lately with like, what am I actually doing to make a difference? And I think art and joy is a form of resistance and finding beauty in things even when it's hard. Even though, you know, it's maybe not as direct. I think that we still need that.
And so I think maybe some of that kind of wormed its way into this book as well.
Katherine Grant: Absolutely. Well, it's a very valuable theme to explore and let the reader think about. Yeah. Another thing that is hinted at in the blurb and also in this scene, is yes, this idea of classism and that Alice mm-hmm.
Is very snobby, or at least that's how Ethan perceived her.
Andie James: Yes.
Katherine Grant: And I remember also Priscilla from the first book.
Andie James: Mm-hmm.
Katherine Grant: Her backstory was that she had been kind of like a mean girl of the debutante society. Yes. And then she like was a recovering mean girl if
Andie James: you'll, yeah. So Alice is her younger cousin, um, our heroine of this book.
And, she is kind of mimicking what she had seen in Priscilla because it's very much this pressure to kind of maintain the family line and make a good match.
And she feels very, there's a lot else behind it that is revealed in the book in terms of her background things with her father. But she feels very, like the fact that she didn't make a match her first season, she's feeling immense stress and she doesn't wanna cause her father more stress either because he's an ill health.
And so, um, she's really kind of been thrust on Priscilla almost to be like, well, look, she married a Duke and now she's married to a Marquess. And so she's very much kind of tried to emanate what she had seen from Priscilla before, and now it's kind of like gonna be
awakening to, oh, there's other ways to be, and I am not superior to everyone, simply because I was born into this elevated family, and what does that even mean? So yeah, definitely that's a major theme in the book.
Katherine Grant: Shifting away from your author self, you have just started a new podcast called First Encounter.
Andie James: Yes.
Katherine Grant: And it's another podcast that's all historical romance.
So everyone listening to this should go listen to first Encounter.
Andie James: Yes. And anyone who is popped in here to hear me listen to. The rest of Katherine's podcast 'cause it's amazing.
Katherine Grant: What, what's your concept for for first encounter?
Andie James: Well, I, it has a split personality, I'm not gonna lie. The tagline, which you kind of read in my bio is exploring both the foundations and future of historical romance.
And I think I have a few aims, but one was that, for me personally, I, even though I write in this genre, consider myself newer to it, I haven't grown up reading it like so many people have. I would say started reading it maybe like five years ago 'cause I kind of dove back into reading during the pandemic like so many people did.
And so there's a lot of kind of standard books, classics of the genre that I've not read. And so for my own education, kind of figuring out more about how did this genre grow, really understanding, the voices and the women that shaped it. I'm reading a lot of these books I've never read before.
So that is part of it, is understanding more holistically the genre and expanding my own scope of what I know and am familiar with. So we have one episode a month where we're choosing a book to read, and I'm in discussion with someone about it and kind of deep diving into more of a classic book.
So, the first month of the podcast we did Lord of Scoundrels by Loretta Chase because it's kind of considered, one of the greatest. So that's one part of it. And the other part though, is that I also really being an indie author myself, I want to help bring more visibility and awareness to self-published and indie authors within the genre.
It can be really hard to discover new authors, new voices, when they're not kind of getting pushed through the same channels as traditionally published authors are. So you're not gonna see 'em talked about on NPR or whatever, right? And so how do you find these voices and what's happening? We've also seen that traditional publishing isn't lending quite as much support to historical romance currently.
And so a lot of what's happening within the genre, the ways in which it's changing and evolving is happening in that Indian self-published space. So, my other episode a month, is gonna be a discussion with an indie author who's currently writing in historical romance and kind of discussing both their own work as well as talking about broader topics that affect historical romance, specifically about romance in general as well.
Katherine Grant: It's exciting.
Andie James: Yeah.
Katherine Grant: Everyone should go listen. Get in from the ground, you can be one of those people who's listened to every episode because you've started from the beginning, so you don't have a huge queue That's overwhelming.
Andie James: I don't have, yeah. No, I started in January, and I'm only doing two episodes a month 'cause that's all I can handle.
I'm really excited about it and the discussions I've had so far have been great. The books I've read have been fantastic, as I knew they'd be.
I think it's great having more spaces specifically to talk about historical romance, and that's why I love your podcast so much, because I feel at the moment, this hasn't always been the case, but I feel like at the moment, within the broader romance genre, we're kind of the, maybe we're the wallflowers right now, right?
Like we're always gonna be invited to the party because you know, we're just that person that's always gonna be there, but we're maybe not the one everyone's super excited about.
Katherine Grant: Yeah, we're just sitting off in the corner reading our books Yeah. While everyone
Andie James: else is
Katherine Grant: talking.
Andie James: Exactly. We're always involved. We're always there. We're important. No one would ever think not to invite us, but we're maybe not the shiny, exciting thing right now. We're not the, the the fun new debutante. It's just a genre I love and I don't wanna see it die.
Katherine Grant: I love it. Well, let's move to my new segment.
Yes, Katherine quick questions.
Katherine Grant: All right. If you had to use one of these words to describe your writing sensibilities, would you describe yourself as a realist, a comedian, or a fantasist?
Andie James: Realist? I think, uh, I paused between that and the fan fantasist.
Katherine Grant: Mm-hmm.
Andie James: Not comedic. That is not my strong suit.
But I definitely want love stories that feel more real. I'm not, I'm not the crazy plot girl. I'm not. Mm-hmm. I appreciate a crazy plot. That's just not what I write. But I think there is, and you said this in my bio, like I think there is a level of fantasy in all historical romance a little bit because
we can research, we can do things, but we're not living in that time. We're making this up. It's a story. We're setting it in history, but really, we're kind of making it what we want it a little bit as well. And so I think there is fantasy in that, but I'm also not writing like romantasy.
But I, I really love, like my, what I focus on and what I really love is just kind of those real development of feelings and the personal growth in the characters. So realist.
Katherine Grant: If you had to choose, would you add more real history to a story or more romance or like intimate scenes?
Andie James: Ooh. I wanna say the latter, but I'm not someone who writes super spicy. So like, I dunno. I'm never gonna write something I know to not be true. And I do do research, but I am not putting in like the nitty gritty, like I'm referencing historical things.
I wanna make sure it feels true to the period I'm writing. I wanna think about how, what's happening influences my characters. But historical focus, it's setting for me more than the important part of the story, if that makes sense. Mm-hmm. And so I think for me though, it's really all about those feelings and those emotions.
And so while my books may not be super explicit, like, I'm really into like the feelings and the sensuality, and so I would read Lean Towards the Romance again. Yeah.
Katherine Grant: Well, I mean, I, I think the library scene you read is mm-hmm a very intimate moment between the two of them that is not sexually intimate, so
Andie James: Yes, yes.
Katherine Grant: Okay. If you were forced to do a genre blend story, which crossover genre would you choose?
Andie James: Okay.
Katherine Grant: So there are examples, mystery, fantasy, horror, sci-fi. There might be other
Andie James: Okay.
Katherine Grant: Genres out there that I didn't think
Andie James: about. Hmm. Why? I think
Katherine Grant: children's,
Andie James: yeah, I would, I would love to do mystery 'cause I love reading mysteries.
Like one of my favorite authors is Louise Penny, if anyone's familiar with her. I don't know if I have the brain for that, honestly. Like figuring that stuff out and making it like the key with mystery is it has to surprise you but be obvious once it's revealed, right? Like it has to make sense, but also take you by surprise.
And I honestly don't think I'm talented enough to do that. But yeah, I think blending with mystery would be great. I think what's more realistic, since I do actually have ideas would be fantasy. Mm-hmm. Um, I'm not gonna pretend that there might not be a romantasy eking out of me someday.
Katherine Grant: All right, and the final quick question is, what does escapism mean to you?
Andie James: Oh gosh. Escapism.
I think being able to quiet the thoughts in my head and focus solely on what I'm doing. I, I am a thinker. My brain never shuts up. I woke up at 4:00 AM this morning and my brain was just like"mah!" and so I think anytime and so any good story that can capture me and make me forget about everything else, and I just become engrossed in it, that is, that is real good escapism for me. And often that's a book, but it can be a play, it can be a movie, it can be a TV show, it can be a podcast.
Story really that can suck me in and quiet everything else that's distracting me.
Katherine Grant: That's beautiful. All right, so as we wrap up, where can listeners find Beguiled?
Andie James: Yeah, so Beguiled is available in Kindle Unlimited and on Amazon. Ideally you can purchase it in a couple bookstores here in the Pacific Northwest as well.
But you can find all the information on where to get it through my website, which is Andie james author.com. Um, that'll link you to anything that you need to. And that's also where you can find information on the podcast. So all the information on First Encounter is also on the Andie James website.
Um, it's just Andie james author.com/first encounter pod. And then following me on Instagram's really the best. I'm on threads and stuff too, but Instagram's really kind of where I'm active and nowhere else. 'cause there's only so much you can do. And I'm at andiejamesauthor all one word. So,
Katherine Grant: and I will be putting your website in the show notes.
I'll be tagging you on Instagram and I assume that if listeners are listening to this podcast on whatever app, they listen to podcasts mm-hmm. They can go search in that app first encounter.
Andie James: Yes. Yes. First Encounter is available pretty much on anywhere you listen to podcasts
and you can also watch on YouTube, um, just like you can watch. Um, the historical Romance Sampler Historical Romance Sampler as well.
Katherine Grant: I'm gonna make sure I follow you.
Andie James: Yeah. And if you guys are listening to this, uh, Katherine is my indie author guest for March. So please listen and we're gonna discuss all sorts of fun things together.
Katherine Grant: Yes. Thank you so much, Andie. I'm so glad you came back. Thank
Andie James: you. Yeah, so much fun. Thank you so much, Katherine.
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